Poor workflow with "continue/ignore/abort" dialog for Multi-disc backup

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brian12345
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Poor workflow with "continue/ignore/abort" dialog for Multi-disc backup

Post by brian12345 »

When doing a mirror backup to removable media (such as DVD/BluRay), Backup4all will:

while (files still to backup), do:
1. Ask user to insert a disc.
2. Calculate what to put on the disc.
3. If it won't all fit on the disc, ask the user what to do ('continue' = use multiple discs, 'ignore' extra files, 'abort').
4. Burn data to disc (if requested)

#3 is a problem because:
a) If you are doing multiple discs, it keeps interrupting you to ask if it should continue. This means often means that the backup is paused twice as much as it should be, taking twice as long to complete because it not only waits for a new disc, but then waits for me to say 'continue'. When burning 20 discs, this amounts to extra days as I'm not always at my computer.

b) it defaults, on a timer, to ignoring extra files. I want to do a multi-disc backup, so don't default to ignoring them! (I have changed the global option to disable this timer, but it's a very problematic default!)

Suggestion:
- Have the backup configuration allow specifying multi-disc expected, and then don't ask.
- Have the default be continue to a another disc.
- Have it so when I say 'continue' the first time, it is able to assume I mean that for later discs too.

Brian.

Adrian (Softland)
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Re: Poor workflow with "continue/ignore/abort" dialog for Multi-disc backup

Post by Adrian (Softland) »

Hi,

Can you please send us the last backup log to see exactly what are you asked for?
Normally, Backup4all cannot continue the backup until the new disk is entered and the backup is told to continue.

brian12345
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Re: Poor workflow with "continue/ignore/abort" dialog for Multi-disc backup

Post by brian12345 »

Hello,

Here is the log of a recent (unsuccessful) multi-disc backup. Note that it asks for my input:
1. Each time it needs a blank disc
2. Each time that it has calculated that the remaining files will not fit on the currently inserted blank disc.

Brian.



[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Backup4all 7.4.461
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] C:\Program Files (x86)\Softland\Backup4all 7\bBackup.exe /GUI {11111111-1111-1111-1111-222222222222} /JOB {2C1BA6E5-0DD3-4C7D-B507-7078DC0171EF}
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Search for "Warning: " and "Error: " to locate warnings and errors in this log file
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Operating system: Windows 10 Enterprise (Build 17134)
Processor[0] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[1] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[2] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[3] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[4] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[5] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[6] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[7] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[8] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[9] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[10] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Processor[11] : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz
Physical memory (free/total) : 13538 MB/32678 MB
User : BRIAN-R5\Brian
Admin/BkPriv/RePriv : True/True/True
IsWOW64 : True
Locale : English (United States)
Installed antiviruses:
Kaspersky Internet Security
Windows Defender

[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Backup4all.hst"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Starting backup for "ABC Backup to disc" at 10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Backup Summary:
General:
Name: ABC Backup to disc
Tags:
Description:
Ini file: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Jobs\{2C1BA6E5-0DD3-4C7D-B507-7078DC0171EF}.ini
Destination:
Destination type: CD, DVD or Blu-ray
Drive: R:
Folder: R:\
Catalog: R:\
Erase before writing: No
Write method: built-in driver
CD, DVD or Blu-ray burning speed: Maximum speed
CD, DVD or Blu-ray device name: R: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.00
CD, DVD or Blu-ray burning engine: SPTD
Volume label prefix:
Source(s):
D:\t\SherninR5(2017)\Shernin's Data
[Local hard drive]
D:\t\SherninR5(2017)\users
[Local hard drive]
D:\t\SherninR5(2017)\World of Warcraft
[Local hard drive]
Filters:
Main:
Include filter:
Include all files.
Exclude filter:
Hiberfil on System Drive - use as exclude
( File name = 'hiberfil.sys'
AND Folder name = '?:\')
OR
Internet Explorer Cache Files - use as exclude
( Folder name = '?:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files|?:\Users\*\AppData?\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files')
OR
Office temporary files
( File name = '~$*.docx|~$*.dotx|~$*.xlsx|~$*.xltx|~$*.ppsx|~$*.pptx|~$*.potx|~$*.sldx|~$*.doc|~$*.dot|~$*.xls|~$*.xlt|~$*.pps|~$*.ppt|~$*.pot|~$*.sld')
OR
Pagefile on System Drive - use as exclude
( File name = 'pagefile.sys'
AND Folder name = '?:\')
OR
Temporary Files - use as exclude
( File name = '*.tmp|*.temp|*.bkc-journal')
OR
Windows Recycle Bin Files - use as exclude
( Folder name = '?:\Recycler|?:\Recycled|?:\$Recycle.Bin')
OR
Windows system files
( Folder name = '%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys|%ProgramData%\Microsoft\RAC\StateData|%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows|%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Search|%SystemRoot%\Resources\Themes|%SystemRoot%\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore|%SystemRoot%\System32\LogFiles|%LOCALAPPDATA%\Packages|%SystemRoot%\CSC\|%SystemRoot%\SoftwareDistribution\Download|%SystemRoot%\System32\catroot2|%SystemRoot%\winsxs\Temp')
OR
Windows System Restore Files - use as exclude
( Folder name = '?:\System Volume Information')
OR
Windows Temporary Folders - use as exclude
( Folder name = '?:\Windows\Temp|?:\WINNT\Temp|?:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\Temp|?:\Users\*\AppData?\Local\Temp')
Backup type:
Type: Mirror
Use block backup: No
Clear archive bit: No
Zip name prefix: none
Folder name prefix: none
Fast mirror: No
Create full paths: No
Copy files in a subfolder: Yes
Remove excluded or deleted files from backup: No
Zip the files: No
Copy NTFS security permissions: No
Copy NTFS alternate file streams: No
Allow file splitting when spanning: No
Sort mirror files for optimized spanning: Yes
Advanced settings:
Backup:
Use local catalog: Yes
Compress catalog in destination: No
Test after backup: Yes
Quick test: Yes
Delete sources after successful backup: No
Remove files with errors from catalog: No
Verify backup before execution No
Ask for backup label before execution: No
Backup open files: Yes
Store temporary catalog data in memory: Yes
Smart file scanning mode: Yes
Only if the previous backup ran in the last 0 day 1 hours
Backup execution priority: Normal priority
Actions:
Action before backup: not enabled
Action after backup: not enabled
Comparison:
Comparison criteria: [Size, Date modified, Date created, Read-Only, Archived, Hidden, System]
Sounds: not enabled
Emails: not enabled
Scheduler:
Abort backup when source drives are not available: No

[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Checking backup destination (CD, DVD or Blu-ray)
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Clearing catalog file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Deleted file: "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc" - OK
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Checking if the drives of the sources exist
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Creating the list of files to backup
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Opening file ":memory:"
[10/4/2018 1:11:33 PM] Cannot use USN journal for this backup. Reason: This is the first backup run.
[10/4/2018 1:12:00 PM] Folders found to backup: 6,166
[10/4/2018 1:12:00 PM] Files found to backup: 73,253 (178.56 GB)

[10/4/2018 1:12:00 PM] Preparing shadow copy
[10/4/2018 1:15:19 PM] Could not create Volume Shadow Copy. Locked files will not be copied.
[10/4/2018 1:15:19 PM] Initializing the writer device "HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.00" using SPTD
[10/4/2018 1:24:35 PM] Creating image to burn
[10/4/2018 1:24:35 PM] Will burn 23.24 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/4/2018 1:24:35 PM] Burning disk, span 1 on BD-R
[10/4/2018 2:11:21 PM] Burn done
[10/4/2018 2:11:22 PM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/4/2018 2:11:27 PM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/4/2018 4:08:13 PM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/4/2018 7:41:03 PM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_1
[10/4/2018 10:49:30 PM] Creating image to burn
[10/4/2018 10:49:30 PM] Will burn 23.25 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/4/2018 10:49:30 PM] Burning disk, span 2 on BD-R
[10/4/2018 11:36:15 PM] Burn done
[10/4/2018 11:36:16 PM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/4/2018 11:36:22 PM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/5/2018 12:00:53 AM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/5/2018 12:03:06 AM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_2
[10/5/2018 12:09:05 AM] Creating image to burn
[10/5/2018 12:09:05 AM] Will burn 23.20 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/5/2018 12:09:05 AM] Burning disk, span 3 on BD-R
[10/5/2018 12:55:50 AM] Burn done
[10/5/2018 12:55:50 AM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/5/2018 12:55:57 AM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/5/2018 3:53:50 AM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/5/2018 12:02:20 PM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_3
[10/5/2018 12:10:36 PM] Creating image to burn
[10/5/2018 12:10:36 PM] Will burn 23.26 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/5/2018 12:10:36 PM] Burning disk, span 4 on BD-R
[10/5/2018 12:57:27 PM] Burn done
[10/5/2018 12:57:28 PM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/5/2018 12:57:34 PM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/5/2018 2:49:28 PM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/5/2018 6:48:09 PM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_4
[10/5/2018 6:52:37 PM] Creating image to burn
[10/5/2018 6:52:37 PM] Will burn 23.03 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/5/2018 6:52:37 PM] Burning disk, span 5 on BD-R
[10/5/2018 7:38:54 PM] Burn done
[10/5/2018 7:38:55 PM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/5/2018 7:39:01 PM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/5/2018 8:09:58 PM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/5/2018 8:10:21 PM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_5
[10/5/2018 8:13:21 PM] Creating image to burn
[10/5/2018 8:13:21 PM] Will burn 22.94 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/5/2018 8:13:21 PM] Burning disk, span 6 on BD-R
[10/5/2018 8:59:22 PM] Burn done
[10/5/2018 8:59:22 PM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/5/2018 8:59:28 PM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/5/2018 9:15:25 PM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/6/2018 12:10:42 AM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_6
[10/6/2018 12:16:27 AM] Creating image to burn
[10/6/2018 12:16:27 AM] Will burn 23.26 GB on a disk having 23.26 GB of free space
[10/6/2018 12:16:27 AM] Burning disk, span 7 on BD-R
[10/6/2018 1:08:11 AM] Burn done
[10/6/2018 1:08:12 AM] Unlocking CD, DVD or Blu-ray drive "R" - OK
[10/6/2018 1:08:17 AM] Loading CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk

[10/6/2018 1:42:11 AM] Ejecting CD, DVD or Blu-ray disk
[10/6/2018 9:46:00 AM] The disk was labeled: ABC B1_7

[10/6/2018 9:48:41 AM] Saving backup catalog "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\Softland\Backup4all 7\Catalogs\ABC Backup to disc.bkc"
Backup aborted. Reason:
SQL error - Sqlite_backup_finish, unable to open database file (14) (SQL3.2)
Total number of files added to backup: 79419
Total number of folders added to backup: 0
Total size of files added to backup: 178.56 GB
Number of files excluded: 0
Number of folders excluded: 0
Next scheduled backup: Not scheduled
Backup aborted after 44:37:09 hour(s) at 10/6/2018 9:48:42 AM with 1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

Adrian (Softland)
Posts: 1912
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:46 pm

Re: Poor workflow with "continue/ignore/abort" dialog for Multi-disc backup

Post by Adrian (Softland) »

User no longer had the problem with the new build.

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